I think it might be the Shakespeare Festival. I find that King John if you can see it results low weight. I saw it in my twenties and my weight was about 150 lbs. Timon of Athens was much later resulting in a weight of about 200 lbs. The Tempest with Christopher Plummer was very satisfying but weight took a big hit that year. Maybe O Wilde …...
Dude no way. I saw Hamlet and Anthony and Cleopatra, in that order. If it was a 'classical vs mediaeval/early modern' effect as you implicitly posit then I'd have seen a fall then a rise.
Forgive my motherfucking fearful sails.
But clearly further research is needed. I wonder if historical accuracy is involved. Both Hamlet and A&C are unvarnished historical documents, as is King John. Ask any historian.
Timon and Tempest are fantasies with no historical basis whatsoever, especially when they set Timon in Sainsbury's as is the modern fashion, so maybe that's why you saw rises?
We need to send a load of fatsos to see 'A Midsummer Night's Dream' and see if we can push them through the 400kg barrier. Henry V should restore them to perfect health.
I’m think we need a grant to study SCD-1 expression as a function of Comedies, Tragedies, Histories. Not sure what a control group or placebo would look like.
We saw Timon in the round in Strafford, Ont., they had sound elements from “Prince”. It was really good. The opening moments from Plummer’s Tempest had Ariel decend from the ceiling like she was swimming underwater to retrieve Prospero’s books from the center stage as though it was a shipwreck. They had stormy noises and lighting as the audience filed in to take there seats. It was spectacular.
I think the scariest Macbeth ever was played promenade style by the “Out of Joint” theatre group from London. It was set in Africa and you were moved around the set by big guys with AK-47s and a thousand mile zombie stare. Best theatre production ever. We saw it in Mpls mustabeen 2004 or earlier. Interacting with the players was very very no fourth wall at all. They recruited audience members to sit at the Banquo banquet. Still sends shivers up my back. Shivers might be a good end point for data collection.
Nice :) I was thinking, you should do a write-up on your experiences of "metabolic diets" or whatever you might want to call it over the last 1-2 years. IIRC you lost a bunch of weight, reduced your thyroid dose by 90%, your hair stopped being grey (or am I making that up?), your friend put his depression into remission...
It's cool to get sidetracked in the details and all that, but we should also be shouting this from the rooftops :)
> It's cool to get sidetracked in the details and all that, but we should also be shouting this from the rooftops :)
You know, I think we're actually winning. I keep seeing articles in semi-respectable publications about seed oilz. If the meme spreads and enough people try it and we're right it will soon be plain as day. And it will turn out that medicine was telling us to avoid PUFAs all along, if only we'd had the good sense to listen!
> your hair stopped being grey (or am I making that up?)
So last year I remember that what remains of my hair, my beard and my body hair were all fairly white. They're now mixed salt-and-pepper, in fact the body hair is mainly dark, but I can't find a photograph that makes this obvious, and it may just be that last year my hair and beard were longer and they'd got sun-bleached (which did use to happen, although it went blond rather than white).
So I think there was a recolouring effect, which is weird, but I don't want to make a big thing about it. I wasn't expecting it, so I didn't make any attempt to measure it, and I may just be fooling myself.
> IIRC you lost a bunch of weight, reduced your thyroid dose by 90%
These two are true though, and I've got records. The thyroid dose is just a straightforward downwards trend. The weight is weird, it's not just PUFA-clearance and it's not just ex150ish, something funny is going on. But I'm about 6kg lighter than I was, and it seems stable whereas a year ago it was rising steadily at around 4kg/year.
> your friend put his depression into remission
Bipolar friend went off keto (not sure why) and his depression's come back. He says he's going to try it again, but he's having trouble getting the willpower together. Sigh, I begin to empathise with psychiatrists. On the other hand it looks like ex150 is just a switch for the depression with only about a week's lag.
If there was some objective way of measuring depression it should be easy to prove in an actual RCT, although I can't see how you'd blind it. Sneak starch into double cream?
I think psychiatry has noticed the positive effects of ketosis though, so it wouldn't surprise me if someone somewhere is doing some sort of unconvincing study.
Allulose!? That's probably a worse poison than PUFAs. *Like* what you're supposed to eat but not *exactly like* what you're supposed to eat is how you make a poison. It will undergo some processes but not others and end up gumming up the works.
Aspartame looks like it might be fairly safe in tiny quantities.
I vote yes on the vodka diet!
I think it might be the Shakespeare Festival. I find that King John if you can see it results low weight. I saw it in my twenties and my weight was about 150 lbs. Timon of Athens was much later resulting in a weight of about 200 lbs. The Tempest with Christopher Plummer was very satisfying but weight took a big hit that year. Maybe O Wilde …...
Dude no way. I saw Hamlet and Anthony and Cleopatra, in that order. If it was a 'classical vs mediaeval/early modern' effect as you implicitly posit then I'd have seen a fall then a rise.
Forgive my motherfucking fearful sails.
But clearly further research is needed. I wonder if historical accuracy is involved. Both Hamlet and A&C are unvarnished historical documents, as is King John. Ask any historian.
Timon and Tempest are fantasies with no historical basis whatsoever, especially when they set Timon in Sainsbury's as is the modern fashion, so maybe that's why you saw rises?
We need to send a load of fatsos to see 'A Midsummer Night's Dream' and see if we can push them through the 400kg barrier. Henry V should restore them to perfect health.
Anecdotally, I was a lot thinner when last I compared thee to a a summer's day. Let's call it a "risk factor."
I’m think we need a grant to study SCD-1 expression as a function of Comedies, Tragedies, Histories. Not sure what a control group or placebo would look like.
We saw Timon in the round in Strafford, Ont., they had sound elements from “Prince”. It was really good. The opening moments from Plummer’s Tempest had Ariel decend from the ceiling like she was swimming underwater to retrieve Prospero’s books from the center stage as though it was a shipwreck. They had stormy noises and lighting as the audience filed in to take there seats. It was spectacular.
I think the scariest Macbeth ever was played promenade style by the “Out of Joint” theatre group from London. It was set in Africa and you were moved around the set by big guys with AK-47s and a thousand mile zombie stare. Best theatre production ever. We saw it in Mpls mustabeen 2004 or earlier. Interacting with the players was very very no fourth wall at all. They recruited audience members to sit at the Banquo banquet. Still sends shivers up my back. Shivers might be a good end point for data collection.
Control would be the US version of "The Office" or "Big Bang Theory."
Nice :) I was thinking, you should do a write-up on your experiences of "metabolic diets" or whatever you might want to call it over the last 1-2 years. IIRC you lost a bunch of weight, reduced your thyroid dose by 90%, your hair stopped being grey (or am I making that up?), your friend put his depression into remission...
It's cool to get sidetracked in the details and all that, but we should also be shouting this from the rooftops :)
> It's cool to get sidetracked in the details and all that, but we should also be shouting this from the rooftops :)
You know, I think we're actually winning. I keep seeing articles in semi-respectable publications about seed oilz. If the meme spreads and enough people try it and we're right it will soon be plain as day. And it will turn out that medicine was telling us to avoid PUFAs all along, if only we'd had the good sense to listen!
Haha I sure hope so
> your hair stopped being grey (or am I making that up?)
So last year I remember that what remains of my hair, my beard and my body hair were all fairly white. They're now mixed salt-and-pepper, in fact the body hair is mainly dark, but I can't find a photograph that makes this obvious, and it may just be that last year my hair and beard were longer and they'd got sun-bleached (which did use to happen, although it went blond rather than white).
So I think there was a recolouring effect, which is weird, but I don't want to make a big thing about it. I wasn't expecting it, so I didn't make any attempt to measure it, and I may just be fooling myself.
> IIRC you lost a bunch of weight, reduced your thyroid dose by 90%
These two are true though, and I've got records. The thyroid dose is just a straightforward downwards trend. The weight is weird, it's not just PUFA-clearance and it's not just ex150ish, something funny is going on. But I'm about 6kg lighter than I was, and it seems stable whereas a year ago it was rising steadily at around 4kg/year.
> your friend put his depression into remission
Bipolar friend went off keto (not sure why) and his depression's come back. He says he's going to try it again, but he's having trouble getting the willpower together. Sigh, I begin to empathise with psychiatrists. On the other hand it looks like ex150 is just a switch for the depression with only about a week's lag.
If there was some objective way of measuring depression it should be easy to prove in an actual RCT, although I can't see how you'd blind it. Sneak starch into double cream?
I think psychiatry has noticed the positive effects of ketosis though, so it wouldn't surprise me if someone somewhere is doing some sort of unconvincing study.
I guess you could hope that it works w/ sweetened cream and give one group sugar vs. monk fruit or allulose? It's not perfect, but...
Allulose!? That's probably a worse poison than PUFAs. *Like* what you're supposed to eat but not *exactly like* what you're supposed to eat is how you make a poison. It will undergo some processes but not others and end up gumming up the works.
Aspartame looks like it might be fairly safe in tiny quantities.
I don't know. I haven't had it but some ketards swear by it..
Yeah, probably tastes like sugar because it does the same reaction in taste buds as fructose does, but then won't go down any sugar-metabolism paths.
It's apparently got a calorie value of 0.4kcal/gram, so it's doing *something* in the metabolism, but probably nothing good. Avoid like the plague.