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muttguy8's avatar

Have you tried my (delicious) method for cooking rice? I suspect not, but thought I'd ask. :)

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John Lawrence Aspden's avatar

I'm afraid I have not, I'm trying to reserve carb consumption for evenings and weekends at the moment, and potatoes and croissants are taking up all the slack..... I will one day....

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muttguy8's avatar

I wish people would switch from potatoes to white rice. So much healthier imo if you need a carb fix.

I accidentally found support for my anti-potato crusade in this article on recovering from alcoholism (which I've never been). Bullet point no 4 is about potatoes.

https://www.fuckportioncontrol.com/addictionrecovery

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Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

It's the only way to make sure.

Btw I think rice is only a little bit less protein than wheat or potatoes. One random entry in the USDA database shows it as 9.5% protein of kcals, and wheat/potatoes at 10-10.5%. I think I have seen a 7% entry before, but not sure if that was potatoes or rice.

I guess 7% vs. 10% would actually make a pretty big difference.

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John Lawrence Aspden's avatar

Oh, thanks! From your own foodulator:

Rice, white, long-grain, parboiled, enriched, dry

https://foods.exfatloss.com/food/169707?grams=802

3kcal, 60g protein

Potatoes, boiled, cooked without skin, flesh, with salt

https://foods.exfatloss.com/food/170520?grams=3488

3kcal 59.645 g

Bread, wheat

https://foods.exfatloss.com/food/172686?grams=1094

3kcal 116.730 g

So it looks like living on bread gets you about twice as much protein as you actually need, whereas both rice and potatoes get you around the minimum necessary amount.

Fuck rice then! Potatoes are much nicer.

I'm a bit surprised, I thought that an all rice diet was impossible, you needed to add beans to it for protein. Whereas an all-potato diet is famously almost survivable. Also I thought I'd already checked that and that bread>potatoes>rice, protein wise.

Maybe there are details, and variability. Oh God....

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Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

I recently added macro % of kcal/weight numbers so it's easier to see now. Also keep in mind these are individual samples the USDA took at that point. I've seen differences between entries, there might be differences in the natural products.. who knows.

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John Lawrence Aspden's avatar

Yes I noticed that. Nice touch!

The internet is black with lists of high-protein foods (it seems to be a thing to try to get as much protein per calorie as possible?) but I want a list of wholesome ancestral foods by lack of protein/calorie and absolutely no-one seems to think that deliberately inducing a protein deficiency in yourself is worth making into a diet cult.

We can fill that niche.

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Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

Working hard on it :D

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muttguy8's avatar

Rice does not have to be 'gloopy'.

Recipe:

Rinse rice (white basmati preferably) thoroughly.

Boil in appropriate amount of water (see directions on the package for amount) with a little salt (and butter!!) if you like.

Once rice is cooked, drain it into a colander.

Refill the pot the rice was boiled in with an inch or two of water and place the colander on top of the pot. Make sure the bottom of the colander is above the water in the pot. Put the pot lid on top of the colander and bring the pot back to a simmer or low boil.

Fluff the rice a few times while it is steaming. After about 10-15 minutes or so the rice should be ready. Nice and fluffy and wonderful with salt and butter and/or chicken gravy.

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John Lawrence Aspden's avatar

I'll try it, thanks! My cooking skills are not great, and I've never liked rice. Curries are much better with chips.

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muttguy8's avatar

It's not hard. Just make sure colander is metal - plastic might melt.

I have had people say this recipe is a life-changing event. :)

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muttguy8's avatar

You can also add a few tats of butter to the rice while it is steaming.

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