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protein and veg's avatar

Any idea how many carbs you've been eating a day? I find rice and potatoes don't have loads, depending on the quantity.

And you can put fruit into beef stew???? Hmmm, gonna have to try that ...

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John Lawrence Aspden's avatar

Err, no. Big frying pan full of chips shallow fried in butter most days.

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protein and veg's avatar

Ok. Lots of fat from butter and cream, together with relatively little protein and carbs might have you in ketosis already.

Will be interesting to see what happens next! ...

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pencildragon's avatar

Oddly enough I've also settled into mostly eliminating bread and cheese and my weight is steadily trending downward. Not being super strict about it, I'll have a mocha or a pastry at a cafe if I feel like it.

But for my day to day meals, the stuff I buy to eat at home? No dairy except butter (if I wanted sour cream etc i'd probably include those, I just feel no desire for it) and no wheat.

I quit tracking calories cause it was too much bother but it's something like 60% carbs 30% fat 10% protein.

Oatmeal for breakfast with butter and salt and plenty of brown sugar. Potatoes or rice for lunch with butter and some kind of veg stew and some beef. The meat seems crucial, when I leave it off I get subtly unsatisfied and end up a bottomless unhappy pit for more rice. The veg also seems crucial.

Banana or other fruit in the afternoon for a snack, lots of sugar in my coffee, soft drinks a couple times a week.

Most evenings I don't seem to need any supper, but if I do I have more rice or potatoes or pancakes. Something mostly starch with some fat and maybe sugar.

When I eat bread or milk I bloat for a day or so and my weight jumps up but then ticks back down.

Curious to see how you get on.

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John Lawrence Aspden's avatar

Yeah, ex150 is ketosis and low protein. Maybe it's just the low protein that is needed....

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Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

Maybe potato diet? Haha. Godspeed on the fruit!

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John Lawrence Aspden's avatar

Woke up singing and full of energy today. Something is going right!

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Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

Oh boy.

On ex150 I often find myself jumping out of bed (quite literally) and shadowboxing my way to the kitchen to make coffee. Not much of a singer myself, but I suppose it's a good sign!

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John Lawrence Aspden's avatar

Yes, I wonder if this is the natural state of man, glycolysis is blocked and all that. God, can you imagine, a whole century of people just getting more and more weary as they poisoned themselves with heart-healthy oils....

Do you feel noticeably less energetic on carbs too?

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Experimental Fat Loss's avatar

Mostly just if there's a lot of digestion to be had, so high starch. But same with high protein, at least meat/cheese. Cream or sugar seem to digest nearly instantly and then I have "high energy."

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John Lawrence Aspden's avatar

That doesn't happen to me, although the last time I gave Sam the dog shortbread biscuits he went totally mental. I was flying him like a kite. I think that's how normal metabolisms react to fast carbs. Not me! I feel noticeably more lively in ketosis. It's happening now too, although I can't be in very deep keto cos I keep eating fruit.

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