Did you get a particularly bad batch? In Slime mold's potato diet experiment people ate only potatoes for a month. If they are so toxic, people should should have died, no? 🤔
Presumably. The wiki article only says 'aim for below'. Presumably most potatoes are well below. But they were perfectly ordinary looking and tasting Maris Pipers, exactly what I usually eat only much more than usual and with the skins on and intact.
Even so, I'd imagine that if you only eat skin-on potatoes for any length of time then you're going to make yourself quite ill!
I don't remember exactly, but in SMTM's potato diet posts, there was some debate over whether or not to keep the skins on, the effects it had on weight loss, AND I think it made some people's stomachs upset.
I sometimes wonder how many potatoes those people were really eating. To get 3,000kcal, the TDEE of a 60kg/130lbs lean mass person, you'd need to eat nearly 4kg of potatoes (raw weight) PER DAY.
I doubt anyone's ever managed to do that for even a week, it would be an insane volume of "food"/fiber. I get the impression that none of those people did this.
What I suspect is, for those for whom it worked, it was basically an "inefficient fast" - they ate maybe 1,000-1,500kcal of potatoes per day, maybe with some added fat (very energy dense), and thus fasted for the remainder of their TDEE.
I've never tried just plain potatoes, sounds awful. But I slugged 4kg in less than three days dripping in butter and cheese and salt and enjoyed every bite! So it might be possible to eat 4kg/day if you take the damned skins off. I do love spuds though.
Now I have an effortless preparation mechanism I guess I could try it and report back? I presume I'm allowed salt and vinegar and other such calorieless things?
It must be possible to live on potatoes. The last Irish generation before the famine was getting almost all its calories from potatoes and yet they were notable for their height and good health (by 19th century standards anyway...).
Maybe the lumper potato was low in solanine, might even explain why it was so vulnerable to blight.
If I feel masochistic I'll try a day on plain potatoes (peeled!) and let you know how it goes.
I'm into week three of the potato diet, and am deliberately doing what you describe here --potatoes & saturated fat at maybe a 10:9 ratio on the densest/greasiest days.
That having been said, I experimented with eating various amounts of potatoes, and wouldn't find it difficult to eat 8 nominal pre-cooked pounds a day. A couple of the days I ate four meals I got close to 10. I'm actually really good at peeling potatoes (was trained as a child, raised by vegetarians with a root cellar) and it was the prep that I found ultimately to be the bottleneck.
They sell such a thing. It's a bumpy rough disk that spins in something like a washtub and abrades the skins off. It's old technology -- I once worked someplace that had a WWII army kitchen model that would do a whole big sack at once, and was plumbed in for water inlet and drain waste. The countertop models they sell only handle 2 pounds at a time. Commercial peelers are $1000.
I was off 'white potatoes' for years due to dogma of their being evil. The other day I confirmed with my first wife that she had never seen me peel a potato. The 'science' on why potatoes are bad for you (which turns out to be commentary on chips fried in canola) matched my intuitions because of how easy potatoes are to eat as a side dish. Just demolished a steak as big as my head? There's always room for [potato]! In retrospect, it's only the potato that was having much of an effect on satiety -- i.e. beef could start a meal but potato could finish it.
But yeah, two pounds of skinned potatoes cooked is a normal-sized meal -- that's like 4 normal russets. Four meals of that goes down real easy if you start with breakfast and eat lunch twice.
Everlasting soup is an old technology! I got told about it by a woman dressed as a camp-follower during a civil war re-enactment when I was a boy. She fed me up and gave me cider after I got mauled by enemy pikemen. Forty years later I revived it when trying to make an effortless version of ex150.
Same thing happened to me on the potato diet. I ate the peels the first week, too. Luckily I barely managed to down any because I quickly got so bloated.
I got massive rashes everywhere, too, and I usually never get any rashes.
I must've missed you doing the potato diet -- thought that was a no-go due to the non-24.
Also, I'm impressed you got a whole week. I only left the skins on a single day, and the carnage in the bathroom the next morning caused the ICC to rule this a war crime.
I tried it the summer before I started ex150, after reading SM TM and they announced their potato trial. It did kick me out of non-24, as expected, but I was on vacation at the time, so didn't matter. Was actually kind of fun to "voluntarily" do non-24 and be able to switch it on/off within a few days via diet :)
Good to know it works much better without the skins, should I ever try it again. Although I think I'll just try white rice next time.
Did you get a particularly bad batch? In Slime mold's potato diet experiment people ate only potatoes for a month. If they are so toxic, people should should have died, no? 🤔
Presumably. The wiki article only says 'aim for below'. Presumably most potatoes are well below. But they were perfectly ordinary looking and tasting Maris Pipers, exactly what I usually eat only much more than usual and with the skins on and intact.
Even so, I'd imagine that if you only eat skin-on potatoes for any length of time then you're going to make yourself quite ill!
I don't remember exactly, but in SMTM's potato diet posts, there was some debate over whether or not to keep the skins on, the effects it had on weight loss, AND I think it made some people's stomachs upset.
Yes, the stomach upset is solanine poisoning I imagine.
I sometimes wonder how many potatoes those people were really eating. To get 3,000kcal, the TDEE of a 60kg/130lbs lean mass person, you'd need to eat nearly 4kg of potatoes (raw weight) PER DAY.
https://foods.exfatloss.com/food/170026?grams=3896
I doubt anyone's ever managed to do that for even a week, it would be an insane volume of "food"/fiber. I get the impression that none of those people did this.
What I suspect is, for those for whom it worked, it was basically an "inefficient fast" - they ate maybe 1,000-1,500kcal of potatoes per day, maybe with some added fat (very energy dense), and thus fasted for the remainder of their TDEE.
I've never tried just plain potatoes, sounds awful. But I slugged 4kg in less than three days dripping in butter and cheese and salt and enjoyed every bite! So it might be possible to eat 4kg/day if you take the damned skins off. I do love spuds though.
Now I have an effortless preparation mechanism I guess I could try it and report back? I presume I'm allowed salt and vinegar and other such calorieless things?
Yea but 4kg potatoes is only 3,000kcal - spread over 3 days, not that much. Potatoes are insanely inefficient, barely "food" in my opinion.
https://foods.exfatloss.com/food/170026?grams=4000
Yea I think so @ salt/vinegar.
It must be possible to live on potatoes. The last Irish generation before the famine was getting almost all its calories from potatoes and yet they were notable for their height and good health (by 19th century standards anyway...).
Maybe the lumper potato was low in solanine, might even explain why it was so vulnerable to blight.
If I feel masochistic I'll try a day on plain potatoes (peeled!) and let you know how it goes.
I'm sure you could survive, but not sure it would be pleasant :)
Or maybe it does get much better if you're used to starch more?
I'm into week three of the potato diet, and am deliberately doing what you describe here --potatoes & saturated fat at maybe a 10:9 ratio on the densest/greasiest days.
That having been said, I experimented with eating various amounts of potatoes, and wouldn't find it difficult to eat 8 nominal pre-cooked pounds a day. A couple of the days I ate four meals I got close to 10. I'm actually really good at peeling potatoes (was trained as a child, raised by vegetarians with a root cellar) and it was the prep that I found ultimately to be the bottleneck.
I'm surprised the competent arm of science hasn't developed an automated potato peeler. How hard can it be?
They sell such a thing. It's a bumpy rough disk that spins in something like a washtub and abrades the skins off. It's old technology -- I once worked someplace that had a WWII army kitchen model that would do a whole big sack at once, and was plumbed in for water inlet and drain waste. The countertop models they sell only handle 2 pounds at a time. Commercial peelers are $1000.
Wow, 8lbs a day, really?! I could only manage like 1-3 and that was hell. Maybe the skins.
I was off 'white potatoes' for years due to dogma of their being evil. The other day I confirmed with my first wife that she had never seen me peel a potato. The 'science' on why potatoes are bad for you (which turns out to be commentary on chips fried in canola) matched my intuitions because of how easy potatoes are to eat as a side dish. Just demolished a steak as big as my head? There's always room for [potato]! In retrospect, it's only the potato that was having much of an effect on satiety -- i.e. beef could start a meal but potato could finish it.
But yeah, two pounds of skinned potatoes cooked is a normal-sized meal -- that's like 4 normal russets. Four meals of that goes down real easy if you start with breakfast and eat lunch twice.
Pot full of continuous baked potatoes for potato diet totally reminds me of the pot of continuous cabbage soup for the cabbage soup diet. 🙌
Everlasting soup is an old technology! I got told about it by a woman dressed as a camp-follower during a civil war re-enactment when I was a boy. She fed me up and gave me cider after I got mauled by enemy pikemen. Forty years later I revived it when trying to make an effortless version of ex150.
Same thing happened to me on the potato diet. I ate the peels the first week, too. Luckily I barely managed to down any because I quickly got so bloated.
I got massive rashes everywhere, too, and I usually never get any rashes.
I must've missed you doing the potato diet -- thought that was a no-go due to the non-24.
Also, I'm impressed you got a whole week. I only left the skins on a single day, and the carnage in the bathroom the next morning caused the ICC to rule this a war crime.
I tried it the summer before I started ex150, after reading SM TM and they announced their potato trial. It did kick me out of non-24, as expected, but I was on vacation at the time, so didn't matter. Was actually kind of fun to "voluntarily" do non-24 and be able to switch it on/off within a few days via diet :)
Good to know it works much better without the skins, should I ever try it again. Although I think I'll just try white rice next time.