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Sep 14Liked by John Lawrence Aspden

Had a roommate for a year that struggled with undereating- based on watching that I really can’t believe the idea that at least her particular case was anything to do with lipids at all - total amt she ate was extremely minimal -so I can’t believe she was getting any real % or total amt of pufas because she ate so little of anything.

It was almost 100% opposite of what most of my life has felt like - where overall I’ve always been fighting to STOP eating.

Note: lately it seems like low protein has changed that- but could possibly be some other things too (electrolytes/ potassium my 2nd guess)

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> it seems like low protein has changed that

Ooh, tell me more. I think protein has to be involved in PUFA-poisoning somehow, so I'm all ears for experiences of 'changed amount of protein'

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Sep 14·edited Sep 14Author

She'll have stored lipids though. Doesn't need to be any PUFA in the actual diet if she's had a life of junk food and vegetable oil. And just like with obesity, the actual amount of calories difference between 'stable' and 'losing weight' is tiny.

Suppose you actually ate so little that the people around you noticed, say 500kcal/day less than normal. Then all other things being equal you should lose 65g/day. In two weeks you'd lose a kilo, which would be a catastrophe for someone who's already underweight. Now for sure, metabolic rate would probably be quite low in someone in that state, but still....

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I've never been on the anorexia side, but if it's anything like the hyperphagia side, it's pretty weird and like you don't have a choice. It's like breathing out, you can't just decide not to do it.

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Sep 14·edited Sep 14Author

https://www.reddit.com/r/Underweight/comments/1f5xehj/how_do_u_trick_urself_to_eat_even_when_u_really/

I found this strangely moving. It's like all the usual crap diet advice through a mirror.

Try to eat in front of the TV, so you don't notice how much you're eating. (a paraphrase not a quote)

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Wow. Wonder if these people would find their appetite if they went on an ex150ish diet.

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Sep 14·edited Sep 14Author

I'd *definitely* be interested in seeing what happened. Even if it's not seed oilz it might be that ex150 is doing something that fixes both obesity and the paradoxical mirror-image version of obesity.

I have heard of anorexia being fixed by ketosis(!), and it's associated with low vitamin D, like all the other bad things under the sun.

But persuading some poor guy on the internet who's dangerously underweight to try the one weight-loss diet that I'm fairly confident actually works is a bit mad even by my standards.

Extremism in thought-experiment is no vice. But "thought" is doing a lot of work there.

Maybe some CICO-the-stupid-plan-believer might have a go. After all, just cream and beef ad-lib, mostly saturated fat, that should be the ideal diet to gain weight on! And if it works, more evidence for CICO!

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Sep 13·edited Sep 13Author

And for similar reasons, I think. Creatures that could wouldn't handle life well.

Suicide can be easy and painless if you use methods your ancestors would never have been able to try.

Traditional methods like choosing not to breathe or jumping off a cliff or disagreeing with the people around you are really hard.

The weird thing about humans is that *sometimes* system two can override system one.

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